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interview by: Roberto Martinelli
Guitarist Morgan Håkansson IS Marduk, Sweden’s most famous and successful black metal band. I’m not talking about his being the only remaining original member, or that he writes most of the material ( which he does), I’m saying that the man personifies the band that he’s in more than anyone I’ve interviewed. Where the metal genre tends to have polite, friendly, seemingly gentle people in the ranks of even the most aggressive-sounding bands, Morgan Håkansson fits the bill of his group’s image: brutal, severe, doggedly determined, and intense. But mostly intense.
You can’t really pick up on this by merely reading the transcript of this interview. But if you spoke to Håkansson, as I did in March of 2005, you would notice his particular way of speech. Polite, yet cold and fierce. He speaks more forcefully than anyone I’ve spoken to, and I’ve never thought the ending of sentences could be so harsh. If you can imagine being questioned by a customs officer in an imaginary fascist country, Håkansson would play the role.
Marduk is back as unrelenting as ever with their Plague Angel album, which was the impetus to the following interview.
Maelstrom: It must have hit Marduk fans pretty hard that what was considered the quintessential Marduk lineup gradually dissolved. But there wasn’t a lot about it on the website. I wanted to start off by getting into what happened with all these people that it seemed would be in Marduk forever.
Morgan Håkansson: Things change; people grow apart; and you want to do different things in life. For example, our bass player was in the band for 12 years, and our vocalist for eight and a half... you change during the years. I mean, it’s my band – I’m the only one left from the beginning. They weren’t. It had been changing a lot during the years. It’s my band; I write most of the material; I dictate what goes on. If you don’t like what’s going on on the ship, then leave it.
I always thought we had done changes for the better. It was a bit amusing for me last year, when we changed both vocalist and bass player – people were skeptical about how it was going to sound. But I knew how it was going to sound, because if I replace people, I will always find someone worthy. If people aren’t 100 percent dedicated, they should leave the band. Everyone should be a hard driving force, or else it doesn’t work, you know.
Maelstrom: Well, people know you write most of the material...
Morgan Håkansson: But that’s the thing with the new lineup: all take part in the creative process. Even our drummer wrote shitloads of material on Plague Angel, you know. Our new vocalist was only in the band three months before we started recording the album, but he still had his impact on it. He really stepped up the plate immediately with things like vocal arrangements and wanted to take part in the process. That’s nice for me because I want people to do that.
Maelstrom: What happened with Legion? It seemed like he would be the most dedicated person ever for Marduk.
Morgan Håkansson: He’s got a family and shit like that; he wanted to do something different... start his own studio...
Maelstrom: I guess. We did an interview with him and it seemed he’d be in Marduk forEVER.
Morgan Håkansson: Yyeeeah, I thought that at one time, too, but things change...
Maelstrom: Now you have Devo Andersson back, from days past...
Morgan Håkansson: Yes! He used to be our second guitar player, from ‘92-‘94. I’ve known him since 1986. We kept in contact. He has a recording studio of his own. I was hanging out over there and doing some remastering of old stuff. When it was time to find a new bass player, it felt very logical for me to ask him to join the band again as a bass player, which he also handles very good. He was very into it. He had been out of the band exaclty ten years, but we work better now than we did in the past.
Maelstrom: It opens the possibility of having a revolving door of Marduk members...
Morgan Håkansson: Yeah.... I never thought in the past that we should have any old members come back, but you never know.
Maelstrom: The new drummer, Emil... the tempos sound faster than they were with Fredrik Andersson...
Morgan Håkansson: They are.
Maelstrom: He seems to be a faster, better player.
Morgan Håkansson: He is. He’s more intense and focused. Freddy got tired during the years. Since we fired him, he hasn’t even touched his drums. He just got tired of it. If you want to be in a band, you should be focused, or else you should leave. Emil’s furious behind the drums – he’s really into it. We work very well together... I like his dedication to the music. It’s inspiring to see him get behind the kit.
Maelstrom: How much younder is he than Fredrik?
Morgan Håkansson: I don’t know. Freddie was like, 35; Emil is 24.
Maelstrom: Haha... well, maybe that has something to do with it.
Morgan Håkansson: Age should never matter. As long as you have the focusation and dedication, you can do whatever. It’s the triumph of the will.
Maelstrom: I do have to say that although Fredrik wasn’t as good, and that he was always playing that same little pattern on the ride, at the same time that sort of defined Marduk’s sound. So it’s kind of sad that he’s gone.
Morgan Håkansson: Nah, I don’t see it that way. I’m always looking forward to the creative process of the future, you know. I always like to work with different people; so it feels great for me.
Maelstrom: I’d like to pick your brain about how you do things recording-wise. What order do you record your instruments in?
Morgan Håkansson: We go into the studio and set the sound one day. Then we start with the drums, and I go together with the drum playing. We put the drums, then I sit down and put the guitars, then we put the bass; then we put the vocals. We mix everything. Simple as that. That’s the way we’ve always done it.
Maelstrom: So does the drummer play to a metronome *and* you, or just you?
Morgan Håkansson: No, no, just he and I. We did the drums for the new album in 10 hours, or something.
Maelstrom: So he’s playing like that for 10 hours.... (laugh)
Morgan Håkansson: We’re always aware of what we want to do in the studio, so when we do go in, it’s lightning war, you know.
Maelstrom: When recording, do you concern yourself on maintaining a tempo throughout the song?
Morgan Håkansson: We play as we think suits the song. It doesn’t matter if it’s fast or whatever, as long as it becomes whatever we have in our heads. As long as it becomes a unit: the vocals, the lyrics... everything becomes one. That’s important... that it becomes a fist in your face in all perspectives.
Maelstrom: Where does this new vocalist, Mortus, come from?
Morgan Håkansson: He comes from a band called Funeral Mist.
Maelstrom: Ah! Of course, Funeral Mist...
Morgan Håkansson: When it was time to change vocalist, I followed my gut instinct. There was only one guy that I wanted. Of course, we would have found a vocalist in time, but when I listened to his album, Salvation, I was fascinated by how he works with his vocals. It was really inspiring to hear. So I gave him a call. We shared a lot of devotions and fascinations and ideas... we had a talk and he joined the band. We work very well together; we share a lot of visions of what we want to do with the band. And he’s been in the band for such a short time... we’ll really see the development on the next album for sure. We’re already working on a few ideas for the next album right now.
We’re going to start putting material together.... I don’t know if you knew, but we were supposed to do a European tour from February to March, and then another one from April to May (of 2005), and then a South American tour in May. But our drummer broke his arm.
Maelstrom: Oh, yeah, he got attacked by someone with a baseball bat.
Morgan Håkansson: Yep. We got a bit blown off. Now we can do nothing; we just wait until his arm heals up. We stay home, finish up on some music videos and work on some new material until we’re ready to go hit the road for the Plague Angel album.
Maelstrom: What’s the doctor’s prognosis? Will he heal up ok?
Morgan Håkansson: I think so. He’ll probably take off the plaster in the beginning of May, so we can start rehearsing. We gotta hit the road after the summer, as soon as possible, and book up everything again... to bring Plague Angel upon the world.
Maelstrom: How much do you practice as a band?
Morgan Håkansson: We used to practice more in the past, when we all lived in the same town. Now, me and the bass player live here, and our vocalist lives two hours’ car drive north, and the drummer two hours south. So we rehearse when we need to, and when we get together, it’s more intense for tours and recording. We stay home and keep in mind what we have to do. I like it better than rehearsing three days a week: that’s boring. I like rehearsing when really we need to; it works better. We create music all of us, and we get together and throw the ideas around.
Maelstrom: How many times does it end of being? You meet up every other week?
Morgan Håkansson: Yeah, something like that.
Maelstrom: Your drummer is from what former Soviet country?
Morgan Håkansson: Former Yugoslavia. His parents are from there. He was born in Sweden. His parents came here in the 60s.
Maelstrom: I was happy to hear how well Plague Angel turned out. I was sad to see the other members leave, but I think the new album is a lot more raw and aggressive than the World Funeral. Honestly, I thought the World Funeral had a few great tracks, but some of the tracks were a little limp.
Morgan Håkansson: Ok.
Maelstrom: But this one doesn’t have a bad track on it.
Morgan Håkansson: I’m still satisfied with World Funeral, but the thing I’m *not* satisfied with is the production: it turned out too digital and clean. When we were working on material for the new album, we felt it was time to change studios. We had been recording in the same one from ‘96-2002. We wanted a bit darker, more black and white, rusty production that really suited how the new songs turned out.
Maelstrom: There are certain albums where it sounds like the snare on the snare drum is loose, like it’s barely hanging on.
Morgan Håkansson: Yyeaap! We wanted a more rusty, death-like feeling on the new album. A bit chaotic and destructive.
Maelstrom: What’s the new studio where you recorded at?
Morgan Håkansson: It’s owned by our bass player. So it’s more relaxed.
Maelstrom: In terms of black metal bands, you’re like enemy #1 in my country. Are you ever coming back?
Morgan Håkansson: They had some problems with the papers. It was in 2001, and we didn’t have the right papers; and there was the whole 11th September thing... paperwork got really fucked up: they thought we had been there illegally for a few years. When we were in Mexico in ‘95, they didn’t put the right stamps in our passports. It turned out in a really stupid nightmare. If we send papers to the INS (immigration and naturalization services – ed), it takes three months to get an answer. And then they want some more information; and you cannot call them... they call you. We’ve been stuck in limbo.
We’ve been talking to different lawyers and organizations or whatever, and spent like thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars on the whole shit. Finally, we have a lawyer over in the States that works for us. He says he’ll sort it out for us, but that we have to do personal interviews at the embassy in Stockholm. Hopefully, we’ll be in the US again. We were anxious to get back. Sooner or later, we’ll be back, and we’ll bring our plague upon you.
Maelstrom: Am I correct that you’re good friends with Abbath from Immortal?
Morgan Håkansson: I haven’t spoken with him for ages, but we’ve toured many times. Our first European tour in ‘94 was with Immortal.
Maelstrom: I’m trying to get some insight on if he’s doing anything or if he’s completely retired forever.
Morgan Håkansson: I know he has some new band. Supposedly he’s back together with the old guitar player, Harald (Demonaz). But it’s completely different music. I should talk about it, ‘cause I only heard about it from a mutual friend. Abbath will be back sooner or later with something, I’m sure. He will never stay away from music.
Maelstrom: What drives you to keep doing your music?
Morgan Håkansson: There are so many things that inspire me, and those things create music in my head. It can be anything: a sculpture, a painting, a photo, a documentary, whatever. I become the vehicle for my creativity. I’m always working on music, lyrics, layouts, whatever. As long as I have this strong vision, I’ll continue to do what I’m doing. The day I finish an album I already have plans for the next one. As long as I have that, Marduk will be around.
Maelstrom: I read an interview in which Marduk was asked what your stance was on the war in Iraq. The answer was something like, “it doesn’t concern us. Let the tanks roll.” Was that you?
Morgan Håkansson: It probably was me. I don’t need to think about other countries’ politics. That’s their problem. I mind my own business; people can do what the fuck they want to do. I take care of what I do; as long as nobody fucks with me, it’s fine with me.
Maelstrom: Sounds like a Marduk answer. Thanks for the interview. |