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interview by: Roberto Martinelli
The following interview with Hate Eternal drummer Derek Roddy was set up originally to discuss the performance of Axis’ A Longboards and patented trigger system for an article on the subject in EQ Magazine (www.eqmag.com). However, there is so much other priceless drum information in the interview that we are running the entire transcript, with kind permission from EQ.
Maelstrom: You just came back from Australia.
Derek Roddy: Yeah, I went with my band, Hate Eternal. We did a tour over there. It was really cool. I also ended up doing a drum fest in Perth, which was really cool. Virgil Donati and Will Kennedy were on it. It was pretty neat.
Maelstrom: You’re one of those guys that’s made his name because you’ve been in so many bands. But Hate Eternal is your band, now?
Derek Roddy: Yeah. It has been for the last five years or so. It’s been the only thing I’ve done. I’m trying to get my foot in the door with other styles. It’s funny that I got known for being fast and all, but it’s not really where my drumming background is – I grew up with Miles Davis and Buddy Rich and Gene Krupa; and fusion with stuff like Mahavishnu Orchestra. All my playing was from that kind of stuff – I didn’t start getting into metal until I became a rebellious kid.
Maelstrom: How did it all go wrong, then?
Derek Roddy: Yeah, exactly. I heard Slayer. That’s what did it.
Maelstrom: The first time I saw you play (and I didn’t know who you were) was with Divine Empire in San Francisco in like ‘97 or ‘98, when you were touring for... Redemption?
Derek Roddy: Yes. Exactly. San Francisco... that had to be at the...
Maelstrom: It was the Cocodrie. It’s gone now. Has been for years. I mean, it’s still there. They were going to turn it into yet another high end strip club, but to this day nothing has happened to it. That was like, five years ago.
Derek Roddy: Wow. We were there with Vader and Cryptopsy.
Maelstrom: Yes! That’s what it was.
Derek Roddy: I remember that show.
Maelstrom: That’s amazing. I wouldn’t think you would, considering how many shows you play.
Derek Roddy: Well, we only played there a couple of times, and I have some memories of San Francisco in general. Pretty cool place.
Maelstrom: Let’s talk about the bass drum triggers that Axis exclusively makes.
Derek Roddy: Well, [contrasting] my experience dealing with (conventional) hoop triggers; [the Axis one] is a separate mechanism that’s set up on the axis of the mounting mechanism that works the actual pedal beater: it’s got a hammer that hits the trigger sensor when the pedal beater hits the head, rather than a sensor that relies on vibration on the head (and anything can vibrate the bass drum head and set the trigger off). It works great. Axis really came up with a good idea of making a bass drum pedal that hits a drum and is an electronic pedal at the same time. Like, all the other [electronic] pedals, like the DW, are designed so that they hit downwards on the floor, and that downwards hit is what triggers the sound. DW made some like that even in the late 80s, but you could never play the bass drum and activate a trigger at the same time.
Maelstrom: The picture on line makes the hammer look very fragile (see it here).
Derek Roddy: It isn’t. It’s really strong. If you try to cut that shit with a pair of wire cutters? It’s ridiculous. If you can imagine taking a spring out of a clothespin, then you’ve got a good idea of what the hammer is like. It’s got a little spring, so it can take a lot of abuse. Remember those spring doorstops you used to play with when you were a kid? That’s exactly what it’s like.
It works great. They had an older design that was just a rigid pin that stuck out. But they found that people were breaking them, so they developed the spring.
Maelstrom: One of Axis’ big boasts about this product is that you don’t have to adjust your trigger sensitivity or threshold. So, does this mean that you can set your brain to maximum or minimum sensitivity, and it’ll sound the same?
Derek Roddy: Well, no. It does have dynamics. I think what they’re saying as far as that’s concerned is that you don’t have to worry about crosstalk or noise vibrations affecting your trigger, which is a problem with the hoop-mounted or stick-on triggers. The only issue with the Axis trigger is when you set up on a playing surface that isn’t totally level. So what I do is keep the trigger just a little loose, so I can adjust them by hand if need be, like if the bass drum is angled a little forward or back. So every day on tour, I push the bass drum pedal to the head and adjust the trigger. And it stays. Actually, I know another guy who leaves them completely loose, and he doesn’t have a problem with them at all.
Maelstrom: What drum brain do you prefer?
Derek Roddy: The Ddrum product is the best mechanism and response out there.
Maelstrom: Have you tried Roland?
Derek Roddy: Yeah. I’ve got a TD-10. I also have a TD-8. I’ve also got an [Alesis] DM-5 and DM-Pro. Now, the DM-Pro is the brain that I use on tour, because it has a sound card (which the Ddrum has as well). (editor’s note: the sound card allows you to import original samples into the brain for use). I’m not big into triggering, honestly. The only things I trigger are my kick drums. So there’s no need for me to spend so much money on triggers (the Ddrum 4 brain is around $1,200 – the Alesis brains are about $400). I found a really good deal on a couple DM-Pros, which allows me to use samples of my own drums – which is what I really wanted. So I got two in case one breaks down on tour. And I’ve found that in terms of drum brains, the Alesis products are definitely the easiest to work with in terms of dialing in all the settings for your triggers.
There’s one thing you have to understand. The Roland and all the other brains out there, are designed for pads. The Alesis brains were designed for triggering acoustic drums.
Maelstrom: How about Ddrum’s product?
Derek Roddy: That’s a different ballgame. They designed that to work with their acoustic triggers, and then they designed their pads around that, because the pads basically have the same triggers in them.
Maelstrom: I’ll tell you what I’ve found. The Roland is great (and they sent me the TD-12) EXCEPT for the fact that I have to plug my bass drums into tom inputs, because I can’t get any other input to sound exactly like the kick input. It’s ridiculous. (editor's note: I FINALLY got it to work, but it took a lot of adjusting) But I’ve found that the Roland is much louder, more powerful, and has better sounds. But the Alesis is so much simpler and easier to use.
So, I looked at your site and checked out your setup. I think it’s interesting how extreme metal drummers tend to prefer smaller toms. I checked out Tim Yeung’s site, too (as you’re both endorsed by Axis) and he doesn’t have a tom bigger than 16", either.
Derek Roddy: Yeah, most everybody is on the 10", 12", 14", 16" tip. I have an 8", but I use it off to the right. I think I might have been the first guy in metal to have 8", 10", 12" up top, even as far back as 1992. I was a fusion guy, and into Weckl and Vinnie... everyone was using 8", 10", 12". It was a comfort level thing. I’m a small dude. I’m like 5'9", and I don’t have a very long reach. So the 20" kick drums came into play, because I could get my drums where I wanted them, and the 8", 10", 12" was comfortable. Also, I noticed that going from an 8" to a 14" was much cleaner than going from a 12" to an 18". The smaller drums were making the difference.
I’m severely into drum sound. Most of the metal guys out there could give a shit – they just trigger the stuff and, ok, it sounds good enough. I really, really like natural drum sounds. I’ve got all kinds of kits – boutique drums, and stuff! It’s the same thing with sound gear. Erik (Rutan, Hate Eternal guitarist) and I own a studio in Tampa.
Maelstrom: Erik’s rising in the producing world, isn’t he?
Derek Roddy: He’s doing pretty good.
Maelstrom: I saw on your site that you use the Axis Longboards. Axis is sending me those. I’m curious to see what will happen, but I’ve never used anything like this before, and I’m concerned I’ll need to adjust my technique just to play these.
Derek Roddy: The leverage is a little different. A lot of people go back and forth with this, saying that footboard angle matters. I don’t think it does, because if you want your footboard angle to change, you’ll just put on a pair of shoes with thicker soles. Since the Longboard doesn’t have a heel plate, the board comes back farther. So if you’re looking at a more standard pedal with a heel plate, and pull the board back so that there wasn’t one anymore, you’d be changing the board angle from like a 45 degree angle to a 35 degree angle. They do actually make these things called Lift Kits that restore a more conventional board angle, but I don’t think you’ll need those.
A big difference I noticed is that the Longboards feel a bit more powerful to me than the other Axis pedals. They’re not as light as the As or Xs. But I can go either way. I like them both. I don’t think it makes a huge difference, honestly. I think too many people put too much thought into what technique they’re going to play for what pedal. All it takes it sitting at your drums and spending some hours getting used to what you’ve got. What beaters are you using?
Maelstrom: I use the ones that came with the Axises. The hockey pucks. I haven’t tried the Sonic Hammers.
Derek Roddy: I switched mine. I don’t like them. They’re heavy... and they’re just... too much. I don’t like a beater to have a flat surface. I’ve been a felt beater player for a while, but I used to play the Danmar cherry apple beaters. Those were killer for micing, but if I’m playing a wedding gig or at a restaurant around town, I don’t need a wood beater. So I went to felts for 10 years. The round surface rebounds better than a flat one. Now I’ve gone to a Pearl Quad beater, because it has a round felt side and a round plastic side.
I like normalcy. I don’t put too much stock into all this new technology and stuff that’s supposed to make your drumming better. (Laugh) Buddy Rich did it better than anybody for the most part, and he did it before all the technology changed.
Maelstrom: Other than Axis, what companies endorse you?
Derek Roddy: Vic Firth, Sabian, and Sonor.
Maelstrom: If you could pick ANY drum kit to have, what would it be?
Derek Roddy: Sonor. I actually don’t have an endorsement. That’s why I don’t have the Sonor logo up on my site. But a friend of mine just took over as VP for Sonor in the United States. I have a bunch of Sonor kits; I’ve always been a big fan. They’ve always made the best quality drums, hands down. I’ve worked at retail drum shops since 1988, and I’ve seen every drum company mishap and misfortune from ever single drum company you can think of, with the exception of Sonor. They do not screw up; they do not make a bad product; and the quality is out of control. Their top of the line drums, the Designers and the Delites... you can’t beat that shit, man.
Maelstrom: When I was looking into getting a nice kit, I thought of maple or birch... And of course so many people dreamed about DW. then I went into a store and told them to set up a DW kit with a Pearl Masterworks, to hear the difference. And I couldn’t really tell. And I cam to the conclusion that as long as you’re getting top of the line, it’ll be top of the line.
Derek Roddy: Everybody that makes drums nowadays makes a killer kit. I’m here to tell you that the $300 percussion plus kit that you can buy – with cymbals and everything – are made 100 times better than the top of the line Ludwig kits were made in the ‘60s. Period. Bottom of the line. They are. Technology has gotten that good.
But the things you pay for are attention to detail. I’ll tell you a story. I work at Resurrection Drums, down here in Fort Lauderdale. We’re a Five Star Drum shop, and we carry every boutique brand known to man. And we stopped carrying DW because every order that we’ve had in the last two years for a customer has come fucked up! Every. Single. One of them.
Check this out! The last one we ordered, the guy wanted Glass Glitter. He wanted a 22x18" kick, and 10x8", 12x10", and 14x12" toms. But they made everything for him backwards. So they made him an 18" kick drum that was 22" long, an 8" tom that was 10" deep... (laugh) I mean, do fucking drummers work at this place? Haha! You know what I mean? What the hell is going on?
I had another guy order a Timeless Timber kit from DW. He reached in to pull the kick drum out when it arrived at the store. You just spent $3,000 on a bass drum – it’s the thing you want to see! Opens it up, puts his hand in there, and the drum is soaking wet with lacquer, still. It’s like they spray painted the thing, put it in the plastic, and sent it to us. (Laugh) It was like, “holy crap!” I’ve never seen anything like DW, man, I swear. So, who’s going to make a better kit for you? DW, that makes a $5,000 kit and makes about 600 of them a month, or Sonor, that makes TWO of them a month. Sonor doesn’t sell a lot of drums, because they’re so expensive and nobody really knows about them. They’d be lucky if they sold two Designer kits a month. Lucky. When Sonor makes a drum, everything – even the screws – are made in their factory. There’s no outsourcing of anything with them. They’re the only drum company that can say that.
Maelstrom: I got all excited by the drums that guy in Rotten Sound – Kai Hahto – plays: Kumu. They’re hand made in Finland. Have you heard of those?
Derek Roddy: I have heard of them. Just through him.
Maelstrom: I’m totally enamored with them. Truth be told, I’ve never heard them in person, but just the fact that they’re hand made in Finland from Finnish trees is so romantic to me.
Derek Roddy: Yeah, yeah, totally! But by the time you have them shipped over here, it’ll cost you like...
Maelstrom: Eight grand!
Derek Roddy: I know, man. Anyone who makes a drum is buying their shells from Keller, anyway. Drum Workshop (DW) makes their own, but ever since they started doing that, they’ve had nothing but problems. Keller makes great shells. Who’s going to make a better shell? Someone who’s been doing it for four years, or someone that’s been doing it for 78? DW is still having glue problems, and problems with plies coming apart, because they have this new glue formula they think will be so great, but meanwhile plies are falling out of people’s drums.
Maelstrom: I got a little turned off to DW, just because the whole name and brand hype seems bloated of how great they’re supposed to be. It seems a little out of control.
Derek Roddy: And they are great sounding drums. We have a couple of them in the shop, and you put them up against anything else, and they sound good. If I was going to buy any maple drum kit on the market today, it would be Fibes. They’ve been around for years and years. They ended up buying all the Jasper shell making machinery. Jasper was making Fibes drums in the ‘70s. They were also making Gretsch drum shells, and various other manufacturers for a while; I do believe they did some Grand Master Series for a while. So this guy out in Texas bought all the machinery and started making the Fibes line again, and they’re absolutely excellent quality drums. It’s a like a normal maple drum shell with a triple flange tube on it.
Maelstrom: Now, I’m under the impression that your Sonor drums are maple.
Derek Roddy: Yes. I like birch, too. I have a kit on order.
Maelstrom: What are the applications of these kits for you?
Derek Roddy: I like the birch a lot because it has a shorter sound. For playing fast around the kit, this is great. Maple is so round sounding. Birch almost has a pre-EQed type of sound: Scooped lows, lots of top and low end, and less sustain than maple. For the type of thing that I’m doing, and for the type of sound that I prefer – miced up and listening to on a record – I like birch. Live, for the metal stuff, birch works well, too. I guess if I was playing rock ‘n’ roll, I’d be more into maple.
Maelstrom: But the Sonors you love so much are maple.
Derek Roddy: Yeah. I have a couple maple Sonor kits. I have a maple Premier kit, the Signias, as well, which is basically the same type of thing. The maple kits that I like tend to have reinforcing rings. The Sonors and Premiers that I have feature those. It shortens the sustain of the maple a little bit.
Maelstrom: How many drum kits do you have?
Derek Roddy: (counts)....... seven kits.
Maelstrom: Are they all set up, or are they stacked?
Derek Roddy: Some of ‘em aren’t even down here in Florida. I have a couple kits back at home at my mom and dad’s in South Carolina that I play when I go home. I have about 20 snare drums. I’m a gear nut. I can’t help it.
Maelstrom: I would be too, if I had the room and the money.
Derek Roddy: I don’t necessarily have the room for it anymore, man. I’m busting out at the seams. I dunno if you saw those warehouse pictures on my website. Also, check out the video of me playing, like “2 over 3,” and a couple of the tracks from the I, Monarch recording sessions.
Maelstrom: I’ll tell you what I think is funny about that album: you’re clearly the star, because you’re by far the loudest person on that record, and it’s Erik Rutan’s band!
Derek Roddy: Yeah, a lot of that depends on the system you’re listening to it on. Here at my house, it’s mostly guitars. The room we mixed it in was a makeshift studio at the time. Erik’s in a much nicer place now. We weren’t really in an environment where we were actually hearing what was going on.
Maelstrom: So on that record, Derek, what did you do in terms of editing your drums? Did you do any replacing? Did you use triggers?
Derek Roddy: Just on the kicks. I used a sample of my natural sound originally recorded with a Beta 52. And the particular drum I sampled was a 24x18" kick drum. I wanted a real punchy, thumpy sound.
Maelstrom: But you’ll still have some of that natural, acoustic sound from the bass drums bleeding through into the other mics.
Derek Roddy: A little bit, but the only mic that’s getting any noticeably is maybe the bottom snare mic; but we even gated that, so the only ambient kick drum sound there was probably through the overheads.
Maelstrom: I talked to Ron Vento, who was telling me about the dick mic.
Derek Roddy: Yeah (laugh)... I just talked to Ron yesterday for the first time in like a year and a half. He’s got quite a nice place up there (Nightsky Studios in Waldorf, Maryland – ed).
Maelstrom: Yeah, he’s real proud. He’s so full of energy, that guy. He’s got such a positive attitude; it’s such a pleasure to talk to him.
Derek Roddy: Yeah, he’s cool. I’ve known Ron a very long time – probably longer than I’ve known anyone in the metal scene that I keep in contact with. I met Ron a long time ago, when I lived in Atlanta. Very, very cool guy.
Maelstrom: But, the dick mic, man. Is that something you use a lot? (A mic you aim at the drummer’s crotch to get purportedly an excellent overall sound. Read about this in detail in our upcoming interview with Ron Vento for Nightsky Studios – ed)
Derek Roddy: What would really be good is at chest level, if only you could play with it there. But Ron’s a nut, man. I remember when we did In Cold Blood with Scott Burns, and all the hype there was about him, that he was going to be some extraordinary engineer... he just came in and threw the mics on the drums – didn’t care about placement, and it was like, “wait a minute!” The mics weren’t near the same area as the toms, and he was like, “ah, fuck it.” That’s where I learned that all this stuff doesn’t matter – all this hype and glory that people talk about secrets and techniques... it doesn’t really matter.
Maelstrom: What matters the most?
Derek Roddy: Capturing the best sound possible at the moment. There are too many factors in music and playing to get too up tight about it.
It’s the same thing with techniques. I was having a debate with a guy on my forum about one-on-one lessons versus taking lessons on line. And the advantage of one-on-one is you have a guy there to evaluate your playing and say, “no, you should do it this way.” And my argument to that is that doesn’t make any sense because even if he told you to do it a certain way, it doesn’t mean you are him. You know, each drummer develops differently over time, and so your muscle groups develop differently. He might be using a whole different set of muscle groups to do that thing that you’re doing, making your progression null and void. So none of that really matters. What matters is spending time in getting you to the goal that you want to be at.
I think too many people go off on a technique thing, asking around what technique others are using, and then try to change what they’ve done. You watch a drummer progress all the way up to 220 (beats per minute on the bass drums, playing 16th note quarters – ed), doesn’t get any faster, and then all of a sudden thinks it’s his technique, and changes it. So he spends eight months learning a new technique, and guess what? He only gets to 220. So he just wasted eight months and you’re still where you were when you began.
Maelstrom: I remember Neil Peart did that. I don’t know if you’ve followed Rush. Have you seen the instructional video he did?
Derek Roddy: Yeah.
Maelstrom: He was playing traditional grip (which he switched to at the time, after playing match grip for his entire career. He made a big deal out of the benefits of this and that technique change). He’s not playing traditional grip anymore.
Derek Roddy: Yeah. And he’s no more better player than he was. People are funny. It makes me think that it boils down to trying to achieve something more than being able to play something on the drums, but more like trying to achieve something in life, and the only way to go about getting it is being able to tap 180 beats per minute on a rubber pad, or something.
Maelstrom: Are you talking about the World’s Fastest Drummer circuit, now?
Derek Roddy: There are all these kids now that don’t care about being in bands, they don’t care about jamming with people; all they care about is building up their foot speed so they can play doubles at 250 beats per minute. But that doesn’t do anything because it doesn’t mean you can play music, it doesn’t mean you could do it on a drum kit, and it doesn’t mean that you can get along with people enough that they’ll want to jam with you. It’s all fine and dandy if you can play bass drums at 300 beats per minute, but if you’re a jerk, no one will want to play with you. People overlook all this stuff. People will overlook your fast feet if you’re an asshole... or if you can’t keep time, or if you plain blow... I think it’s funny how this is perceived, like accomplishing this will put people in the limelight that they aren’t capable of achieving on their own. If you stood beside one of these “fastest drummers” and watched them, you would laugh. You wouldn’t believe that people validate it.
Maelstrom: Ok, how are you differentiating what’s funny about that and what it is that you’re doing?
Derek Roddy: I’m making music. I’m in a band, touring the world, making a name for myself, and educating others about what is important; and not making a claim to fame because I have fast feet, but I don’t play with a band. You would think the same thing about a 16 year old kid in high school as a guy who makes his fame by having fast feet. It’s all fine and dandy, but in the end, it doesn’t mean anything. The bottom line in music is contribution. Unfortunately, people have turned it into something like it’ll do something for you, or that you’re not cool if you’re not listening to a certain type of music, but people don’t genuinely like it. In the ‘70s, ‘60s, and ‘50s, people genuinely liked music. They don’t anymore. They don’t. This is why I’m fortunate to play and be attracted to the styles of music that I am, because obviously no one is coming to a Hate Eternal show if they don’t like the music. You know? There are plenty of people at a Disturbed show who are told to be there by radio or media, and they don’t know if that’s what they like, or not. They’re not researching their music.
Maelstrom: Now, you’ve been in drum magazines a few times, I’d imagine.
Derek Roddy: Yeah, a couple times in “Modern Drummer.”
Maelstrom: How do you feel about those magazines? I find that they seem to focus on drummers who really aren’t that special.
Derek Roddy: It’s all about popularity. You can’t blame them, because they need to publish the magazine to put out the information. The one good thing is that there’s usually only one article like that. It’s the cover, and it’s the one that’s going to sell the magazine. But the rest is mostly information. I get a lot out of “Modern Drummer,” some months more than others.
Maelstrom: You played with Virgil Donati at the drum clinic. Who’s better, you or Virgil Donati?
Derek Roddy: Oh, my god, Virgil’s one of the best drummers on the planet. But there again, I don’t think that anyone’s better. Everyone’s different. No one looked at Ringo Starr and said, “Ringo, you’re a crappy drummer.” Ringo inspired more people to pick up sticks than every super drummer nowadays put together. And he wasn’t some virtuoso drummer.
If you ask me who’s better, me or Virgil, I dunno. I’m friends with Virgil. He came out to the Key Club in LA, and stood behind us and watched us play, and he had just as many questions for me as I had for him. He’s seen me play different styles, and I’ve kept in touch with him over the years, like I gave him the Divine Empire and Nile records I played on. Really, really cool guy, and really into drums.
Maelstrom: Now, you’re talking about the second Nile record, right?
Derek Roddy: Yeah.
Maelstrom: How much did you play on that? The liner notes say, “additional drums by Derek Roddy.”
Derek Roddy: I did everything but track 10.
Maelstrom: It says “drums: Pete Hammoura,” and then “additional drums by Derek Roddy.” That’s fucked up.
Derek Roddy: The whole thing was kind of screwy. Pete had injured himself, and when they went in to record drums, they were already two months behind schedule. They spent four weeks getting the record done, and they made the slip covers. And it was known that I was going to come in and do a couple of the faster songs, so that’s why they put “additional drums.” And all this was transpiring as [Pete] was doing drum tracks, but they were unacceptable, so I ended up doing all the songs. But, whatever; I don’t care.
Maelstrom: When was the first time you used triggers?
Derek Roddy: Oh, my god. It’s been... years. It was like, 1990.
Maelstrom: Was Malevolent Creation your first big gig?
Derek Roddy: It was the first professional metal CD that I had done.
Maelstrom: When was the period where you made the biggest improvement. I have a feeling your skills have kind of plateaud for a while, now.
Derek Roddy: Oh, god no. Definitely not. I’m growing every day as a player. I’m playing stuff today that I wasn’t able to do yesterday. I’m that type of player – I seek it.
Maelstrom: How much do you practice?
Derek Roddy: I try to get 10-15 hours in per week.
Maelstrom: Whew, for a second I thought you were going to say, “10-15 hours a day.”
Derek Roddy: Virgil plays like that. I work; I’ve got other hobbies... I collect snakes. I’ve got over 60.
Maelstrom: I guess your wife is down with the snakes.
Derek Roddy: Yeah, totally. We breed ‘em and hatch ‘em every year. It’s fun watchin’ the little heads poke out of the eggs. I have other interests besides music – it helps keep my outlook on music kind of fresh.
Maelstrom: Derek, this has been such a treat. I love interviewing drummers.
Derek Roddy: It’s fun, man. We’re a totally different breed. It’s like the only community of musicians that genuinely want to help each other. There is a lot of competitiveness, especially when you start talking about BPMs.
Maelstrom: Oh, especially in death metal. I don’t think it’s nearly the case in other styles of music. Death metal is really all about one-upping, isn’t it?
Derek Roddy: Yeah, that’s what the kids have made it to be, unfortunately. It didn’t start like that. Over the last 10 years, it’s gotten so extreme, and like I said, they’d rather sit in a bedroom and be able to play to a Hate Eternal record before they can get in a band, or else they won’t be able to get in a band. And the people out there writing music are demanding players of [the calibre] of what only two or three of us out there can do. Everybody’s not that good, and unfortunately, it’s been the focus on young drummers for the past five years, like, “you have to be able to play at least 250 beats per minute,” which nobody is doing anyway.
Nobody’s out there playing quarters above 250. Nobody. I’m not; Tony [Laureano]’s not... there are a couple guys who can play around that, but nobody’s playing over that. Even Tim Waterson, he’ll play a double stroke roll triggered on a pad and hit it 1,200 times in a minute, but he’s not playing in a band, live, on a stage, with other musicians that are feeding off each other, all amps on... and <not> holding on to something while you see how many hits you can crank out on a pad. It’s a totally different ball game, and these kids don’t understand that. The only way to truly get better as a musician is to play with other musicians.
Learn more about Derek Roddy here.
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