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interview by: Roberto Martinelli
You might think you’ve had a few too many. You might think WE’VE had a few too many. Why? A whole lot of the following interview with Texas black/thrash champions Absu is just whacked out. It clashes. It contradicts itself. And not in a clever way. Don’t worry. Everyone on our side is lucid. Not necessarily sane, but lucid.
It’s all Absu, who’s definitely not sane, and unfortunately not entirely lucid, either. We’re talking most specifically about drummer Proscriptor McGovern and ex-guitar/bass player Equitant, who showed up to push their two disk anthology, even though he hasn’t been in the band for years and doesn’t seem to intend to return, even though he’s still making music with Proscriptor. See? We think they’re both out of it. Don’t believe us? Try adapting that game in the Sunday funnies you played as a kid where you had to spot the differences between the two drawings, but apply it to this interview. (Hint: there are at least five)
Maelstrom: I’m just wrapping up a big study on drum triggers. I can hear you use them on Tara. What kind were they?
Proscriptor: They were homemade triggers that were run through a Kurzweil k-2000. The samples were of my acoustic bass drum.
Malestrom: How did you make homemade triggers? Did you go out and buy doorbell sensors?
Proscriptor: That’s it exactly. They cost about $3 at Radio Shack. All you need is that, copper wiring, and a soldering iron. It’s a done deal.
Malestrom: Equitant, what gear have you used to record?
Equitant: In the past, we’ve used a Marshall JCM 800, an older 80s one. We also used a local company called Satboi. For bass, we used Ampeg. We usually use AMG pickups. Later, we started using a POD, going direct into the board.
Malestrom: Did it give you a better sound? Did it make things easier overall?
Equitant: It made things a lot easier.
Malestrom: Have you used a modeler on any of your studio recordings?
Equitant: The early ones were all miced.
Proscriptor: What Shaftiel (ex-Absu member who quit after Tara) would do was a split channel: a Marshall on the left, a POD on the right; and then he would go back and double up, so there would be four guitar tracks all together.
Malestrom: What kind of drum kit are you playing now?
Proscriptor: I had been playing Pearl for many years. I’m now playing Mapex. I have the Pro 5 – the bottom of the line. The reason I acquired it was to obtain more organic percussion and get a lot of cymbals for the custom drumset I’m building. I’ve got a Mapex snare, LP, Istanbul, Paiste and Zildjian cymbals.
Malestrom: Sounds like you like a lot of cymbals.
Proscriptor: Yeah. I’ve got 16 of them. I’ve got four chinas and a gong as well.
Malestrom: How important is the choice of kick drum pedal for you?
Proscriptor: It’s a very important factor because I’m very meticulous with the pedal settings. I’ve been playing Iron Cobras for years. I love them. Soon, I’ll be playing the Axis Classic Black Longboards.
Malestrom: Isn’t that a totally different feel, though?
Proscriptor: It is, but I play differently now than I did back then. Speed-wise, the Axis is definitely a lot faster. I’m still playing the Iron Cobras. I’m used to them. But I’ve always liked change, so I’m going to switch.
Malestrom: The Tara has the Iron Cobras on it.
Proscriptor: Yeah. It’s one kick drum, too. I used a double pedal, and it’s the only drum that’s triggered on that record.
Malestrom: That’s interesting as well. A lot of the top guys who play fast double kick will say how they’ve tried the double pedal, that they don’t like the feel of the slave side not hitting anything... is this a preference for you, or is it easier not to cart so much stuff around?
Proscriptor: No, it’s my preference. I think the response of hitting one drum is a lot more dynamic than hitting two drums. For example, I think it would be a lot easier to do a very fast roll on one snare drum than two snare drums. Plus to get the tuning dialed in on two drums is very meticulous.
But, actually, now, I am playing two bass drums. I had to get away from one kick.
Malestrom: Well, that was a huge contradiction. What made you do that?
Proscriptor: Like I said, I need change. I played two kicks until ‘95, when I went to the double pedal for 10 years. Now I’m back to two kicks. Always gotta have change to make things enthralling and exciting.
Malestrom: Now for the biggest question of the hour: what’s going on with your band? Have you found someone to replace your guitarist?
Proscriptor: Currently, Absu is on hiatus. We have released this anthology to hold the fans over until there is a new studio album. When there will be a new studio album is questionable right now. The idea for the anthology was spawned a year ago when a guy from the States named Peter Tucker started a petition, which several hundred people signed, requesting that Absu get off their asses and record a new album.
Malestrom: So it was just short of a governmental intervention.
Proscriptor: I read all the petitions, and it got me into gear. I thought, “well, I can’t give you a new studio album right now, but what I can do is compile songs: rarities, demos, 7" songs, unreleased live material...” basically, everything that we’ve recorded that is not on the official Osmose-released studio records.
Malestrom: How about that pre-Absu band? The one you weren’t in. I want to call it Menhir...
Proscriptor: Dolmen?
Malestrom: Yeah.
Proscriptor: That’s before me.
Malestrom: Is that out on CD?
Proscriptor: No, it’s only on vinyl. It’s pretty much just a rehearsal tape.
Malestrom: Tell us more about what’s holding Absu back. Are you looking for a guitar player? Shaftiel quit three years ago, right?
Equitant: Yes. I’ve gone back to playing guitar. I’ve switched back and forth.
Malestrom: Ok, so what you’re looking for is a bass player...
Proscriptor: Here’s what happened. When Shaftiel left, he and Equitant were playing guitar. We didn’t have a bass player. We found another guitar player, so [Equitant] went to bass and we had a complete line up. But things didn’t work out with the new guitar player. And the direction of the band wasn’t going where we wanted it to, so that’s when Equitant left. And then in late June of 2002, I shattered by wrist in 23 different places.
Malestrom: That sounds like the maximum.
Proscriptor: Just about. I couldn’t play for four months. The orthopedic surgeon that took care of my wrist said that he didn’t know if I could play drums ever again, which was kind of earth shattering. So, as time progressed, the wrist did heal, and by the time I was out of the cast and done with rehabilitation, I had to rehearse to go to the Netherlands to record the third Melechesh album. So by the time I returned, Shaftiel had kicked out the new guitar player. So it was down to me and Shaftiel. I was ready to continue with the songwriting and arrangements of the self-titled album, but in January of 2003 Shaftiel explained to me that he was unequivocally not interested in continuing with Absu any more. And that’s basically when the band went on hiatus.
Malestrom: And somewhere along the line, Equitant came back?
Equitant: Nooo. I mean, technically, I’m working on my solo stuff. [Proscriptor and I] are getting together for this release, to promote it.
Malestrom: Equitant, are you doing anything else, band-wise?
Equitant: Pretty much just my electronic stuff. Nothing in the metal vein. I’ve got two projects. One with Proscriptor, actually, two with Proscriptor, and I did some of my solo stuff (Equitant) that came out on Proscriptor’s label.
Malestrom: Let’s go back to the trigger subject. Proscriptor, what is your advice on the matter?
Proscriptor: I’m not a fan at all. I only use them for kicks, and only for playing very fast tempos. As far as snare and toms go, the sensitivity of the trigger sounds seems processed to me. I much prefer the natural, acoustic, wood warmth tone produced by the drums. You can’t play at neck-break speed without [the trigger] having that synthetic keel behind it.
Malestrom: Could you tell in your own words why you like to trigger your kicks?
Proscriptor: The faster I play, the lighter I hit. That’s the positive reason to have triggers – to have the constant volume there.
Malestrom: How did you break your wrist?
Proscriptor: uh...
Malestrom: Is this embarrassing?
Proscriptor: A bit. To make a long story short, I fell off a 10 foot ladder. I had to. I was forced to.
Malestrom: You were forced to fall off a 10 foot ladder?
Proscriptor: I was forced to fall off because a 125 pound tree branch was about to fall on me (note: Proscriptor’s alter ego is mild-mannered lawn and garden business operating Russ Givens, hence the situation with the ladder and the tree branch – ed). So, a) I could have taken the branch, or b) I could have jumped off the ladder. I landed with all my weight on my left hand. When I went to the hospital, my arm and hand were completely black. They told me nothing was broken and that I had a torn ligament. When they took the x-ray, they couldn’t see the break. The bone I broke looks like a peanut or a cashew. It’s one of the hardest bones to heal, because it’s so small, and it shattered in so many places. It looked like someone took a sledge hammer to it.
What’s amazing is that before anyone realized it was broken, I was still rehearsing with it. The pain was still very ravenous. It got to the point where I was taking duct tape and wrapping it around my wrist. It happened three of four times, and then I told the other members that I couldn’t do it anymore and that I had to see an orthopedic surgeon. So when they took another x-ray, they looked at me like I was totally manically crazy.
Malestrom: How’s your playing now? Are you back to where you were?
Proscriptor: I had four weeks of rehab, and when I got back on the kit, I played better than I ever had. Everything happens for a reason, and the break made my playing a little better.
Malestrom: The anthology looks great. How about unearthing any live albums?
Proscriptor: We might do that down the road. In the meantime, we have solo projects. Equitant and I also have a band called Starchaser Network. I’ll be playing drums for Demonic Christ, which is based out of South Carolina. We’re bringing in the bass player from Enthroned, from Belgium. I’m also doing another band called Heaven’s Devils, which is like 70s, blasphemous, a little southern-type of rock, like Blue Oyster Cult, but a little heavier and more metallized and sinful. I’m a hired session drummer, so I do a lot of work. I don’t like to be occupied with just one band.
Malestrom: And Melechesh is still going on?
Proscriptor: Yeah, they are. I’m not going to be on the next album, which they will start recording in January. I’ve done two albums in the past, but I’m finding it to be just too difficult.
Malestrom: And you don’t find it possible to record your parts at home and send it to them?
Proscriptor: Well, with this album, I’m actually writing some of the lyrics and singing two of the tracks. Maybe I’ll be on the next one after this one. They still consider me a member of the band. I’ve tried to quit and they won’t let me. |