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interview by: Roberto Martinelli
Lance King is like the Bruce Campbell of melodic, progressive metal. Talented, handsome and committed, the ever youthful star of the B-list of melodic singers has got a following amongst true hounds of the genre. Like B-movie god Campbell, he’s got a flair and originality that breeds culthood. And he’s a dedicated kickboxer, too, so he could probably also do his own stunts.
Although King was part of some recordings with bands such as Gemini and King’s Machine, he first truly broke through in 1998 with Book of Secrets, his first of three albums with British power metal band Balance of Power. Since his time with that band, King has sang on numerous other projects such as Avian, Defyance, and Shining Star, but he claims the Danish group Pyramaze (who just released their second album, Legend of the Bone Carver, reviewed in this issue) as his main project, all the while running the metal label Nightmare Records. Most remarkably, though, is that he’s done the lot without ever hardly leaving his home of Minneapolis, Minnesota, leading us to dub him with the moniker of the Static Nomad. But before we take him to task on the vocal clips in prog metal, let’s see how he receives this honor...
Maelstrom: I first found out about the whole Lance King legacy through a guitarist in one of my bands.
Lance King: “The whole Lance King legacy”? (laugh) What was that? “All the good and the bad...”
Maelstrom: Well, we’ll go into that in a minute. But part of the “legacy” has to do with all the bands you’re in. I’ve come to call you “The Static Nomad” – you don’t go anywhere (physically), but you’re in 20 bands.
Lance King: “The Static Nomad.” (Laugh) Yup, that’s me. That’s funny.
Maelstrom: How do you do this, man?
Lance King: How do I do it? Well, I’m a workaholic and a metal-crazed freak, and I like to play with lots of different people because I learn a lot. I grow as a musician by working with different people. I’m all about learning and getting better as a singer.
Originally, I was the die-hard band leader guy in my first few bands. And that was... hard. But I enjoyed it a lot. I was in Freelance for about five years, and then I joined Gemini for about six years. Then I did King’s Machine for about two or three years; and then Balance of Power came upon my plate. It was an offer to be a hired gun. It was the first time I had gotten [an offer] like that. And I thought it could be good.
There was a magic chemistry that happened with the band from the get-go. I had been exploring new sounds with King’s Machine, and going into Balance of Power was really easy for me. Musically, it was like going home. It was easy and pleasant, and worked really well for my range.
Maelstrom: These bands must have overlapped, unless you’re like, 60 years old, or something.
Lance King: Hahaha! I’m 42. Yeah, I’ve been doing it a while, and been playing live for 25 years.
Maelstrom: So all those bands you mentioned, like... Freelance? Was that what you said?
Lance King: Yes. We never had a release. We wrote something like 10 songs that were never recorded properly. We demoed them up in horrific conditions with sub-par equipment even for that time. We’re talking around the time Queensryche was putting out their first EP, we were doing that... and... it was a pile of shit. Haaa!
Maelstrom: So, wait. Free... Lance. Does that have something to do with your name?
Lance King: That was a punny... uhh... play of words that our guitar player thought was cool. He wanted to do Ambuhlance, because his last name was Ambuhl. But he had to be told on that... that it was too punny.
Maelstrom: Oh, my God.
Lance King: (is now in embarrassed hysterics) But at the time, we were all in our teens, and we were out at the bars, and none of us were of age. It was fun.
Maelstrom: At face value, it seems kind of like a contradiction when you say you like to play with a lot of musicians. Like, the guys in Denmark (Pyramaze): you’re not playing with them.
Lance King: Except when I do shows. But it’s the same – only better in some ways. When you get the tracks in the studio, they’re perfect. They sound great, they’ve been tweaked, and you’re given free rein to do whatever you want with them. And that is nice.
I’ve learned along the way. I was a sound engineer. I learned how to tweak knobs, and I’ve been involved in the production of every album since Balance of Power (and even before that. Like with King’s Machine. That whole album was actually done on an 8-track cassette deck, and it still sounds good.) I learned all that, so I can actually record my own stuff.
But now I’ve got Pro Tools, the studio and the really killer mics, and the whole bit.
Maelstrom: Do you record other bands, too?
Lance King: No. It’s just my studio.
Maelstrom: Now, tell me something about Balance of Power’s drums. Were they all recorded on an electronic kit? Because I always picture someone playing a Yamaha DTXpress kit in his bedroom when I focus on the drums.
Lance King: That’s pretty much it. In the US, it’s kind of hard to understand how small things can be in London. Everything is scaled down considerably – people are smaller, the streets are smaller, the cars... everything is smaller. Lionel’s (Hicks – Balance of Power’s drummer and producer) “flat” – or, apartment – has a bedroom, and what the call a “second bedroom,” which is really the size of a walk-in closet. There’s also a bathroom, a small kitchen, and a living room space. So he didn’t have much room to work with. He sound-proofed his second bedroom – which is about the size of a king-sized bed – and turned it into a studio. He started doing the triggering thing where he would play the stuff on pads, and then sequence it, mainly due to being able to get good tones and to the issues of volume. And then it became a big part of the Balance of Power sound.
Maelstrom: That’s what I was going to say. I listened to the last album they put out, Heathen Machine, and the drums sound even less like acoustic drums than on earlier albums.
Lance King: (laugh) He’s been trying to get them to sound more and more like the real thing. We experimented with Perfect Balance. We recorded them all and played them back through speakers that we re-miked with room microphones, in order to get a little extra ambience. And that actually helped a little bit, to liven things up, like the cymbals. I think even the cymbals are triggered.
Maelstrom: Sure. I’ve actually found this to be rather typical with power metal nowadays.
Lance King: It’s not typical with power metal. It’s very un-typical.
Maelstrom: Really? Well, here’s what I’ve found. On many of the power metal albums I’ve been listening to recently, the cymbals are very thin. In other words, they don’t resonate very much, they decay very fast, sound flat, and all the hits sound the same. I think of Dark Moor as a prime example. I noticed this with Balance of Power for sure.
Lance King: Yeah. I know Lionel probably wouldn’t want people to know about that...
Maelstrom: Well, if you know what to listen for, you can tell immediately.
Lance King: You know, it’s funny. Only the drummers have an issue with it. Everyone ELSE thinks it’s great.
Maelstrom: Yeah. Guess what I play.
Lance King: I’m sure that you play drums.
Maelstrom: Aaah! Hahahah!
Lance King: (laugh) In reviews, it was only the drummers that would slag on it. We’d get stellar reviews otherwise, so I thought, well, there aren’t that many drummers reviewing, so it’s not that big a deal. But he was always very concerned about it, because he’s a drummer as well as a producer. So I said, well, it’s there; it’s part of the sound now. It’s part of the signature thing.
Maelstrom: That’s what I had begun to say: I’m imagining it became part of the sound, like you were saying. I’m imagining that by Heathen Machine, they had gotten a lot more popular, and could have gone to a studio and recorded acoustic drums. But they didn’t. In fact, they’ve embraced the opposite even more.
Lance King: We would always record in his home and then go into a big studio to mix, except for the very first album, which was all done at his house.
Maelstrom: Do you sell that very first album, the one with Lincoln on the cover? (Before King was in the band – ed)
Lance King: No. It’s out of print. It’s done. It’s gone. They’d rather forget about it, I think. The sound did change so dramatically when they went to the next album, partially because there were two different players.
Maelstrom: What are your thoughts about the individual productions of those records?
Lance King: Haha, I’m going to give away all these secrets; they’re going to be pissed. But, who cares? I’m not in the band anymore! Haha!
Well, the keyboards on Book of Secrets and Ten More Tales are guitar synth.
Maelstrom: Is that blasphemous?
Lance King: Well, we had a keyboard player, but he didn’t know how to play very well.
Maelstrom: Oh, my god!
Lance King: That’s what the problem was.
Maelstrom: So why was he in the band?
Lance King: Well, because he started the band.
Maelstrom: Okay...
Lance King: Yeah... and he was kind of the band manager at that time. And until we said goodbye to him because we could never get on a tour because he was cancelling them because he couldn’t really do the job. So it became political, and we were like, “this ain’t working anymore. We don’t want to just be a recording band. We want to play shows. We want to prove that we can, because people are kind of questioning that.” So we had to sack him, as they say in England, and hire another guy that could do it.
Maelstrom: That’s crazy, that a guy who would start a band and then couldn’t play his stuff.
Lance King: Well, if you listen to the first album – he wrote some of that album, but I’m not sure how much of it – the parts are very bonfire, basic structure kind of chording. They’re old-school hard rock songs. That’s what he did. When we got him in the neo-classical arpeggiation stuff, he was so far over his head that he couldn’t do it.
Maelstrom: So, now, these other bands, like Avian and Pyramaze... is it “pyra” like the “pyramids,” or like “pyrotechnics.”
Lance King: It’s like the pyramids, but it’s a natural mistake given the flaming guy on the cover of the first album, Melancholy Beast.
Maelstrom: Right. I thought it had something to do with fire.
Lance King: Sure. That’s probably what the artist thought, too, when he came up with the cover, I guess. Michael, the guitarist, came up with the name. He was putting words together; trying to come up with something unique, because it’s pretty hard to come up with an original band name these days. So he combined the words “pyramid” and “maze.”
Maelstrom: So they record all the music in Europe, and then they send it to you, and you sing over it.
Lance King: Pretty much, yeah.
Maelstrom: And you come up with whatever melodies you want to their lyrics?
Lance King: Yeah. Well... before Balance of Power, I would always co-write all the songs, write half the music and all the lyrics and all the melodies. I was fairly used to doing a lot of writing and song arranging, and that kind of thing: I had already done three albums worth of it. So it was really easy for me to only have vocal melodies to do. It was like, “oh! This is so great!”
And [vocal melodies] are probably my strongest thing. Words are a little more laborious. I can do that, but it takes a while. I also think that when you spend a lot of time writing the music, you have less melodic ideas [left over], because you’ve incorporated them into the song already.
I think that was part of the chemistry when I first started doing BOP: realizing that I could add a whole lot more to the song by NOT being part of the original songwriting process. Melody is what sells the song. So it’s important for me to remain as distant from the material as I can while it’s being created, and have it totally fresh, and start singing the moment I hear it. I don’t listen to the songs until I start recording. And the first things that come to mind are what go to tape.
Maelstrom: You’re not going to have us believe that you just start recording, and whatever comes out, that’s what goes.
Lance King: No, no. I’m not saying that’s the first take. Some lines I won’t be happy with, and I’ll do 20 takes till it sounds good to me. Sometimes I nail it on the first try. It helps to be a little warmed up. It takes me a couple of times through a song before my voice is warmed up. (And my pitch gets a lot better. Haaa!)
Maelstrom: My guitarist seems to think that you don’t practice.
Lance King: I don’t. Much. I practice very little. Why did he think that?
Maelstrom: Well, like I said, he’s all up on the legacy. So he’ll tell me stuff like, “Lance King doesn’t practice!”
Lance King: I don’t. My wife gives me crap about it. She’ll be like (in a rapidly accelerating, nagging voice), “you know, you should be practicing every day. Do you know how much better you could be?” And I go, “uhhh... you’re right.”
Maelstrom: So why aren’t you practicing, then?
Lance King: Well, you know, I have made a commitment to practice an hour a day. But I keep my chops up in a local cover band I’m in. I keep up the schtick of being in front of people and entertaining them, and I learn new techniques from covering other people.
Maelstrom: What are you covering?
Lance King: So I do get practice, but it’s not in the best context.
Maelstrom: Uh-huh. What are you covering?
Lance King: I need to concentrate more on my own thing. When I do an album, I feel my voice gets tremendously better from working on it every day for two to three weeks.
Maelstrom: You should take on 15 more projects.
Lance King: Yeah... Hahahaha! Then I’ll go do a cover show and it’ll be really cool: all these new ideas.
Maelstrom: Lance, what are you covering in this band?
Lance King: ... a lot of schlock. Everything from Whitesnake to Ozzy to Queensryche to Dream Theater to Alice in Chains... and more current stuff like Disturbed and... uhh...
Maelstrom: Wow. That’s a pretty wide base.
Lance King: Yeah. You can check the site out at decibelrocks.com. We’ve got the playlist. We’re going to do the Korn version of “The Wall,” and they want to do Pantera’s “Cowboys from Hell.” That might be a stretch for me, but I’ll try. It’s pretty hard to do Phil’s intensity. I’m a little cleaner singer.
Maelstrom: Many singers that try out for a metal band for the first time are afraid of throwing that grit into their voice; that they’ll hurt themselves.
Lance King: That’s a normal reaction. The biggest thing to remember is that you’ll figure it out. You pace yourself; the voice is an amazingly recuperative organ. I’ll go out and do a bunch of gritty covers; the next day I sound quite a bit different when I talk. But by that night or the next day, my voice is pretty much healed.
It’s really about eating right, getting enough sleep, and drinking enough water. And, uh... and, uh... there are a few other secret weapons.
Maelstrom: What, are you going to write a book?
Lance King: I should! When I first started, I was really worried about it, too. I was in a cover band for the first five years, and we were playing five to six nights a week; so I had to figure it out.
You’re not always singing on “10.” You sing on “10" when you need to, and lightly when you don’t.
Maelstrom: So you’re not going to tell me your secrets.
Lance King: Uhhhhh... nope. (I had to leave this off the record. Hit Lance up yourself and maybe he’ll tell you. – Roberto)
Maelstrom: So, what all does Lance King do?
Lance King: Pyramaze is where my loyalty lies. Avian is a side project. We’ll see if it develops into something more. It seems to have legs. Nightmare Records is my daily grind – that’s one of the reasons I don’t practice, and... (to someone in the room) I’m doing an interview, woman! (Back to us) My wife came in and was looking at me funny. She wanted to know if you wanted to know the real story about why I don’t practice.
Maelstrom: Tell her we’re working on you. In fact, let me talk to her for a minute.
Lance King: (to wife) You want to talk to him? (Female voices in the background.) She’s like, “I better not start talking: I’ll get you in trouble.” Hahahaha! She’s shy. It’s funny how the extrovert ends up with the introvert.
Maelstrom: I think it’s great and amazing how well you’ve done with Nightmare considering the sorry state of metal in this country, especially the kind of metal that you specialize in.
Lance King: I’m not getting rich at it. It’s paying the bills. But it’s been going pretty well considering the market has gotten a lot tighter – considering that many record labels are going down the tubes because of the gross downloading and sharing. There’s been a five to six year gap in which there has been a lot of financial changes. I didn’t really notice it so much; I can only imagine how much bigger Nightmare would have been if I had started it 10 years before.
Maelstrom: I don’t really get how Balance of Power is labeled as a Christian band. Can you explain that?
Lance King: I think a lot of it had to do with Book of Secrets. It was based on Michael Drosnin’s The Bible Code. I’m Christian, and although the lyrics aren’t Christian necessarily, they are very spiritual, introspective, thought-provoking, poetic and well done. Tony did a great job of writing the lyrics in Balance of Power. The Christian market embraced it, and it was ambiguous enough that you got the non-Christian listeners, too.
I’m really against all the negative hate metal shit that’s out there. It drives me up the wall. I don’t promote any of that at Nightmare (and believe me, with a name like Nightmare Records, there’s a lot of that coming at me.) Here’s kind of a side story: we sold well in the Christian market, obviously, so I was working with other companies that only sold to that market. And they would tell me things like, “we’re doing really well with the Christian black/death!” And I though, “isn’t that an oxymoron?” But if you go to blastbeats.com, they’ve got all kinds of bands like that.
Maelstrom: How would metal bands in this country go about finding a good melodic singer? We’re having a hell of a time finding one.
Lance King: That’s probably why I get offered so many projects.
Maelstrom: Like, if I went to Sweden or Germany, I’d probably find you on trees.
Lance King: Hahahahah!
Maelstrom: Don’t ever move there. And why is it that people don’t want to concentrate on singing well?
Lance King: I think that most of the people doing music are pretty young, and most of them don’t have much experience. And most of them have been influenced by newer forms of metal. When Nirvana’s Nevermind hit the streets, the sound of metal changed dramatically. So you’ve got 21-year olds that were five or six when that came out, and nu metal and grunge was a lot of what they listened to. Those were their influences; they don’t know what was before that. That’s my assessment.
What I’ve found is that, when exposed to what I call better music (because I like it better), younger people love it. They just haven’t been exposed to it. They haven’t heard Halford wail; they haven’t heard Geoff Tate hit Mindcrime notes; they haven’t heard LaBrie do great things; they haven’t heard Steve Perry or the singer from Kansas. There were so many fantastic singers that I was exposed to from my childhood on.
Maelstrom: It’s funny. When I tell people about my musical interests, be they playing or writing, and I often am asked, “do you listen to anything other than metal?” And, well, I do, but I’m into metal. It seems people can have a hard time understanding that. Like it’s very limited. Can you relate to that at all?
Lance King: I’m exposed to both ends of the spectrum, like yourself. I obviously prefer metal, but I like a lot of different kinds of music. Most people don’t know the bands I’ve been in or the music I listen to. And that’s ok. It’s just how it is. They don’t have any clue as to how many divisions there are now, with so many bands trying to carve out their own sound. There have been a lot of developments since the ‘70s and ‘80s. And you know, that’s what a lot of people are basing their assessment from of what metal is: what you’d hear on any classic rock station.
Maelstrom: I can’t wait to hear the new Pyramaze. You read what I wrote about the debut: it was great, but at the same time it left room to be so much better.
Lance King: I think it is. I think it’s easily as good. We wanted to do better, though. I’ve found with Pyramaze that it’s an acquired listen. You listen the first time and you might not catch it all. But the more you listen to it, the more you enjoy it. Even myself, who’s listened to the songs 500 times, can go back to it and enjoy it. You know you’ve done alright then.
I know that with the Gemini or King’s Machine or early BOP albums, stuff I don’t listen to for a long time... when I go back to it, I think, “that was pretty damn good!” Then there are times when you listen to your old stuff and realize you weren’t singing as well as you thought at the time. I listen to the first Balance of Power record now and think, “boy, I could have done that better.” You’ll hear it on the Avian and the Pyramaze albums: I think my pitch and technique has gotten a lot better. The more I do it, the better I get, but the more anal I get about it. I thought I was anal before...
Maelstrom: What’s your favorite vocal mic?
Lance King: I’ve been using a Groove Tube M1. I don’t believe they make it anymore, but it’s a really neat tube mic, with a tube in the mic itself and a vacuum tube power supply. And I run that into a tube pre-amp, and then into a tube compressor and tube limiter, and then into digital.
I had bought a really expensive Neumann. The U87. I got the vintage one: the one people swear by, the one that costs you three grand. And it sounded exactly like the Groove Tube I paid 700 bucks for used.
The U87 is kind of the standard of recording. It’s like how the [Shure] SM 58 is the live standard of the industry. (And now the Beta 58 is the standard.) And quite honestly, the Beta 58 is pretty good, but the old 58 sucks by today’s standards. I prefer a Sennheiser module that I use live. It has a flatter response. It’s warmer.
Maelstrom: When you got the lyrics to “Legend,”the one about unicorns, on the debut Pyramaze album, did you roll your eyes? I mean, unicorns have been done to death and then some.
Lance King: Well, not by me. To be honest, I hadn’t listened to a lot of unicorn songs before that, so I didn’t have any prejudice on it. But I guess Dio and any band into the whole Dungeons and Dragons thing will have written about it.
Maelstrom: Were you ever into Dungeons and Dragons when you were a kid, Lance?
Lance King: No. I heard about it and wanted to check it out, but never did. I was more of a chess guy. And blackjack. I like blackjack. Keep it simple.
Maelstrom: Now, tell us about Shining Star.
Lance King: That was going to be my main project when I left Balance of Power. The same label that put out BOP in Brazil approached me with this new project, and I liked the tunes. The label paid me to sing on it, got it recorded, and then asked me if I wanted to mix it. I said sure. We negotiated a price and I went in and mixed the album with Todd Fitzgerald, who engineered the previous two Balance of Power albums. This incurred a rather large studio fee, which in time the label said they’d send me the money for.
Well, I waited and never got any money. I guess they went over their budget. So I held the masters until now, three years later. The only reason I’m releasing it now, so close to the Avian and Pyramaze, is that my buddies down in Brazil were getting pretty darn anxious!
Maelstrom: Sure, it wasn’t their fault.
Lance King: Exactly. Fabio Rocha is the guitar player, and he’s fairly well known in his country as a virtuoso. He had a fairly successful debut album with Shining Star, and before that he had four solo albums. So finally we decided I was going to sell it here to get my money back.
Recently, I realized that the more sub-licensing I do to Japan or Europe gets me quick cash but doesn’t really help me sales-wise. Especially since territorial licensing has gotten pretty small. When I joined Balance of Power, they were still pretty big. I’m sure they were even bigger before that.
Maelstrom: I wish the guitars on Melancholy Beast were thicker.
Lance King: I got the pre-mastered version of the new record emailed to me, and I thought the guitars weren’t loud enough, and the keys were too loud. I want the guitars to hit you in the face. This is a metal band. The symphonic thing, you can only take so far.
Maelstrom: Now, this is me talking as a progressive metal fan, but all the spoken clips on records have got to go.
Lance King: They’re a bore. Guess what? There are a couple big ones on the new Pyramaze.
Maelstrom: What do you think about that, Lance? Do you think they’re boring, too? Are you going along for the ride?
Lance King: Well, I thought the one on [Melancholy Beast] is a little bit cheesy. It’s your standard low voice that they pitch-transposed so it sounds like a demon. Cheesy, but it fits the song. The clips on the new one sets up the entire record. It is a concept album, so there is a story line. In fact, we’re even considering doing a small movie about it. But [the clips] fit. It’s not just gratuitous. I think you’ll find it’s there for a reason. And I used my own voice on it.
Maelstrom: So no low talking?
Lance King: No.
Maelstrom: Good.
Lance King: I did it in a sort of catch-you-up to the story kind of vibe. Like when you watch “The Lord of the Rings,” you’ve got the one elf witch talking to you normally, but emotively.
Maelstrom: Please also tell me the clips aren’t in the middle of the songs.
Lance King: No. They’re at the beginning and the end of the album. It’s not like <Book of Secrets>, where there’s talking all the way through, which I thought was a little overdone, too. But it was neat; the guy had a great voice.
Maelstrom: I’ll tell you one of the few times talking works. Bruce Dickinson’s <Chemical Wedding>. That guy’s voice is kil-ler!
Lance King: Yeah!
Maelstrom: Have you heard that prog band Redemption?
Lance King: Yeah, I sell them.
Maelstrom: There’s a great example of clips mucking things up. It’s like, “instead of a guitar solo, we’re going to have a talking clip solo.” As a fan, I hate this.
Lance King: Yeah. The only other talking on the new Pyramaze is my son, who got a little role in the album being the main character.
Maelstrom: Well, that’s just nepotism.
Lance King: Well, it was more creative. As I was reading the lyric, I felt it was too weird for me to say. And to sing it didn’t seem right, either, even though I had this beautiful melody set aside for it that I had already recorded. But I thought it would be so much cooler if the character said it himself, as he’s growing up. So I had Tommy do it. He was nine when we recorded it.
Maelstrom: I can’t wait for the new album. I honestly wanted to say thanks so much for pushing metal in this country. I think you’re doing us all a great service.
Lance King: Well, thank you for supporting the music we’re putting out.
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